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John Bullard


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On your download page it refers to version 1.5 of Java in relation to VUE 2.2.8

However, THe version of Java that I have is Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 7.

Does this explain why VUE does not work correctly for me?

John B
Nikolai Schwertner


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John, what exactly is the problem you are referring to? Are you using vue.exe or vue.jar to start VUE?
John Bullard


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I have reported this problem to Mike Korcynski, but he has been unable to resolve the problem so far. Essentially, i am unable to use 'save' or 'save as' in version 2.2.8. I have also tried installing version 2.2.3, but the problem remains. I look forward to progressing this as I am very keen to use the product.

regards,

john Bullard

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Mike Korcynski

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John,

Again, my apologies, we've just been talking through your problem. It's one of the most bizarre issues I've seen, I have one more request and one suggestion as we try to get you up and running with VUE. First, can you open a DOS prompt and type 'set' and send us the output. I'm thinking that no matter what version of java you're using there may be a runtime jar from a old java version in your system classpath which causes this problem across multiple java versions. Also, Can you go to Control Panel -> Add/Remove programs and just give us an idea of how many and what versions of java are currently installed in your system?

Now, I'm going to recommend that you download and install VUE 1.5, it is a much older version of java and lacking in some of the new features but it has been around for a very long time, and it known to be quite stable. We'd be very interested to see if FileChoosers work in 1.5 on your system:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=113315&package_id=151393

Again, thank you for bearing with us on this, and for helping us get to the bottom of this issue.

Thanks,

Mike
John Bullard


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Hi, thanks for getting back.

See attachment for 'set' output. BTW, I'm still using version 2.3.3

Java versions installed

J2SE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT 5.0 UPDATE 1
J2SE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT 5.0 UPDATE 11
J2SE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENT 5.0 UPDATE 6

Java 6 update 2
Java 6 update 3
Java 6 update 7

Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 1

Hope this helps.

john B
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John Bullard


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Hi. 1.5 didn't work either. Am I doing something really stupid here? When I create a new map, I just create a couple of nodes using 'cntrl N' and put some random letters inside the node. I repeat this a couple more times and then select 'save as' - nothing happens. When I quit VUE it asks me if I want to save the files, when I select 'save as' , again nothing happens.

regs

JB

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Mike Korcynski

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John,

Random question, but do you have a external hard drive with a custom drive icon attached to the computer?

Mike
John Bullard


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NO. Bog standard Toshiba Satellite pro, no extras. Using Firefox.
Mike Korcynski

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Try running VUE from the command line with the flag -nowin

java -jar VUE.jar -nowin

This will force VUE to not load the Windows look and feel. You're installation is failing when java is trying to retrieve an icon from windows, there's a known issue in java where this *can* fail if you have a custom Icon for a harddrive. It doesn't sound like this fits your situation but there would appear to be something a bit off about your windows installation I just haven't been able to figure out so far. Doing the above will use java's native MetalUI and shouldn't have to load icons from OS so I'm thinking this may work.

-Mike
John Bullard


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Hi. Getting impressed with your perseverance.

Not quite sure I got that right. Is that from the DOS prompt, or from Windows 'run' option?

Also, is that,

java (space) -jar (space) VUE.jar (space) -nowin

If so, DOS prompt says 'Unable to access jarfile vue.jar'.

Run option flashes something but nothing appears.

regs

JB

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Mike Korcynski

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John,

I've attached a screenshot of my dos prompt for you to see, you'll probably want to cd to the directory where VUE.jar is installed. I am actually really confident this is going to work, and I'm glad you've beared with me this long. If this works I'll be able to put a fix in VUE to check for this problem in the future.

Thanks,

Mike
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John Bullard


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Whoa!! awesome dude. WORKED. What's happening?

So do I have to do this every time I want to use VUE? :(

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Mike Korcynski

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Your windows theme or windows look is missing an icon, and it's completely hosing java when it tries to load Java's Windows Look and Feel. What version of VUE are you on now, I've lost track. I can send you an updated .lax file so you can run the .exe without having to type the parameters everytime, and we can try to put a fix in the next release to prevent this from happening in the future.

Thanks,

Mike
John Bullard


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I've tried it on both 2.3 and 2.8 works fine. Currently using 2.8

How come I'm missing an icon? I'm just using standard XP.

Golly, feels like I've contributed!

Thanks for everything.

JohnB

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Mike Korcynski

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John,

Take this VUE.lax file I've attached and copy it over the VUE.lax file in your \Program Files\VUE\ folder, this will automatically start VUE with the parameters we've discussed above so you don't have to launch it from the command line. Meanwhile, we'll try to do something about this for future releases.

I'm not sure why you're missing an icon, it looks like a fluke. I read somewhere that it could have to do with switching windows in and out of 'Windows classic' mode, but honestly I have no idea how this came to be.

Thanks for working with me through this problem,

Mike
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