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Ian Goldsmid


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Currently I see that Vue supports files and web links. But many people, including me are using products like Microsoft OneNote, and Outlook. OneNote in particular enable the copying of links to its internal contents to the clipboard. It should be possible to add these to a node so that clicking the node navigates to the linked content in OneNote. The OneNote protocol looks like: OneNote:. The Outlook one looks like Outlook:. They operate via many other windows apps, just as if they were web url's.
Ian Goldsmid


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not an active forum, and not responded to even by the Vue developer?
Peter Wilkins


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Hi Ian:
Your proposal is interesting. I was unaware of the Outlook and OneNote protocols. How specifically would you use the ability to link to Outlook and OneNote? Would you expect to be able to drag-and-drop items from those applications directly onto a VUE map? Would clicking on these nodes in the map open the linked item in its associated app?

(some background)
These protocols are known as URI Schemes are maintained by IANA. The public registry of URI Schemes is at http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html. The Microsoft URI schemes are not registered, which means that these protocol specifications are not publicly maintained and reviewed documents. I was unable to find these specifications at http://msdn.microsoft.com, though I expect they are available somewhere. (If you know their location, please advise me.)

There are two other issues that we'd need to resolve to consider your proposed feature.

Since VUE is a cross-platform application, we need to consider how to handle platform specific features. while we acknowledge that most users run VUE on Windows, features that are specific to a single operating system require more development work than features common to all platforms. (So if you are an Outlook and/or OneNote user, let us know that this feature is important to you!)

Another issue is security, though I expect this is manageable with a little work. The way we currently handle URLs to hand them off to the default web browser application. Evidently this would work fine if you're running Windows and IE is your default browser. It wouldn't work at all if you were running Linux. The security issue has to do with how the unknown URL protocol is processed. There is a small chance that an unknown protocol could be used to compromise your system.

Peter Wilkins
VUE II Project Manager
peter dot wilkins at tufts dot edu
Bruce Gilstrap


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I second Ian's request to be able to link to OneNote. In fact, I started browsing these forums specifically to see if there is some way to do this that I had simply overlooked. OneNote is a great way (in my opinion) to collect and organize information hierarchically. However, it lacks a good way to provide a big picture perspective, which is what VUE excels at. I would love to be able to continue to use the rich OneNote environment to structure information in useful ways, while having a visual representation of subject matter in VUE, with links into OneNote.

Thanks,
Bruce
Ian Goldsmid


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I didn't realize there were any replies here - most forums provide a function to email responses to the thread starter, and/or thread participants.

Both Compendium and CMAP tools provide this ability "out-of-the-box". The OneNote, and Outlook protocols are already registered in Windows (I don't know about Mac) - so I think all they need to do is NOT restrict links to either File:// or HTTP://. For example there's another program I use called WhizFolders, that provides the wzfolder:// protocol, which works "out-of-the-box" in Compendium and CMAP - and they sure haven't created a specific implementation for it.
Admin


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+1 for linking onenonte to VUE!. Congrats on 2.0. I barely understand the presentation feature, but the scrolling/zooming is really cool.

Is there any documentation available yet on presentations under 2.0?
Thanks!
 
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